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Now, fast food companies say any sort of raise just isn't going to happen. that $15 an hour especially is a nonstarter. they're saying if they raise the wage of their workers, it's going to get passed down to the consumer in the form of higher prices for food. there are no hard numbers on this, but it's estimated that the price of a burger could go anywhere from $3 to $3.50. now, that's really the heart of the question. is that that big of a deal? some economists say it's not because if you pay these workers more, they're going to need less in social services. so the country as a whole will be...

It disturbing. in the end, i am not sure that in terms of fiscal policy and position on anything from earned benefit programs to sort of budget cutting, obama is that much more different than clinton. >> yeah, i was going to say that. i think that -- i don't really agree with that quote, the way it's played out. i can see where it looked that way back then. first of all, in terms of the relationship, let me quote the buddha, who said -- >> please, please. >> sometimes the big dog runs with you, sometimes the big dog runs against you. >> yes, yes. >> i just made that up. the point being that le...

Safety net, earned benefit programs, whatever, however you want to characterize them. i'll let you go ahead. >> we have to keep in mind, it matters not at all what tom cole, john boehner says, mitch mcconnell says, because nobody listen toss them. i don't care if tom cole is moderate or whatever he is, or john boehner, like he says, we're not going to shut down the government. the pocket of conservatives running the house republican conference don't listen to what their leadership says. tom cole could want to raise tax toss 50% and that doesn't really make a difference. >> you're saying no les...

Medicaid and social security, plays right into this. cruz wants to give these guys a super highway, a pathway to vilifying everything that we have when it comes to earned benefit programs. this, of course, is going to enam enamor him even further with the conviction crowd. and i'll tell you, it really is a brilliant strategy, because nobody else -- who would think the chairman of the fcc would play right into somebody's political campaign? you but it's very clear what cruz is doing. are you concerned on the budget committee this is what you're going to be running into? >> look, absolutely. the...

Mitch mcconnell, will not pursue this strategy again, because it clearly will not work, shouldn't work, and we ought to get down to -- >> but you have no assurances they won't go down this road again, do you? >> no, we don't. >> okay. and i think that's -- >> but let me tell you, e. the american public needs to -- and voters and every one of these districts needs to tell every one of us shall don't do this. stop this playing games. get them to work. make sense with one another and for our country. >> congressman hour hoyer, congratulations on the resolve. i think the president also deserves an...