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But getting momentum is the mayor of south bend. you talk about the diversity of this field, he is the first gay candidate who is out and proud running in the election for president. that's the first time that's ever happened. now let's talk about the potential candidates seriously considering this race and many of these folks are making serious decisions in that respect. cory booker from new jersey. he's starting to staff up. he's got staffers in iowa on the ground there. joe biden, the vice president, has been traveling the country basically for the past two years. seems to be heading in tha...

The calculation is different for everybody. one person facing pressure is bernie sanders. kamala harris is making waves. gillibrand is out there. a lot of sanders supporters are saying hey, i'm getting a lot of calls. people want know sign up. yes or no. >> with harris. great optics so far. major test tonight before iowa voters in our cnn town hall, but when you look at the number, which i know you do all the time, this poll shows she places fifth behind biden, sanders, o'rourke and warren. is it a name recognition? why do you think she's down in the fifth spot? >> it's a name recognition. i s...

White house? jon king is with me now. so just on that point, ryan nobles just ran through all the potential you know men and women who want to throw their hat in the ring for 2020. so r for people thinking about it or on the if he safence, wil crowd and goose bumps for a lot people who felt what kamala harris was throwing down in oakland, might that keep them out all together? >> it's possible. one o of the questions you have to make is is there oxygen for me. it can take many forms. are there key staffers on the ground? if you're o'rourke? terry mcauliffe. he's never run for president. o'rour...