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Prison. he would've been convicted of federal crimes. this would've been the second time, which by the way, it would be very important for the trump voter, that this is not the first tortured victim of the law actually reaching into a former presidents behavior. this is a moment in history that is now unlike any other moment in history. this is making alvin bragg feel really comfortable. he is going to be -- he's going to be able to work without a lot of people knocking on his door, wondering what's going on. he -- this is so much more important in every legal sense. what is going to be happen...

We know the, you start to say well, how can you defend it? what is the defense? i spent a lot of time asking him for a defenseless and it did not emerge. that's the state this case is as weak right now. >> and to be clear, we play some of the sound of trump's video response to all of this. he is not offering a defense of his actions, he's suggesting that the doj is committing election interference, because these indictments are coming down at the precise moment that he was running for president in 2024. it's as if he was saying, i see your charge, all raise you one. this is the legalese that i...

Is a referendum on our ability to self govern? >> alex, the name of the case when we see it in writing on tuesday is going to be the united states of america versus donald j trump. that is the united states of america, the executive branch, charging the former head of the executive branch of the united states of america and the government. this is something that we have been heading for, when you really reach back and feel history. really it should've been headed off 49 years ago. 49 years ago, the president of the united states made a terrible president. we now know. gerald ford retardant ric...

Would like to get its case out in the open, so that it is not just absorbing the incoming from opponents of taking this case in the first place. i guess that my question to you would be, do you see the fact that jack smith has not said anything, that he quietly moved this down to florida, that he is going to a jury pool, and potential judge's election which is less favorable to his cause, is that a sign of confidence? >> it is certainly a sign of professionalism. he is doing exactly what you're supposed to do under the law, which is not been, or trying to find the most hospitable possible jour...

Jonathan here, how she began to wrap this up, we saw the scene -- >> we saw the scene shannon not long ago of the president flying from mar-a-lago from west the west airport, to appear in state court up to new york, not a plane can be going the other way because the president is in bedminster, so they're likely to come from laguardia, or one of the new jersey airports nearby. in flight on the other way to miami to appear in court. so, we will have all of the same imagery that we had not long ago when the going the other direction. >> and there are some differences, but as you guys have been no...