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This pandemic, where americans can learn to live with this virus, it's around, it doesn't disrupt the economy as much, it doesn't disrupt people's daily lives as much. there is a little bit of hesitancy in terms of when exactly they declare that and when they do that, >> because they've been burned before. >> there was a certain declaration -- independence from the virus that may have happened last -- >> freedom summer. >> yeah. >> so that is one of the reasons why they're being very cautious about that. but when you talk to public health experts within and around the administration, it's very...

Hang over their nexts? >> i spoke to a few senior republican officials who were at the event there in utah this week and they were very disappointed that the headlines that came out of this past week were all focused on trump and the censorship of cheney and kinzinger at a time where they personally feel that they are at a political advantage when it comes to talking about the biden mi administration, the economy, their handling of covid. and instead of focusing on things that they really do feel like they have a winning message on. instead, what came out of the past week and what continues to...

that was my point. i do think there is a robust set of guidelines in place through the directors working order, the better streets plan, and the general plan. they can always be strengthened, however, i believe. the other point i may not have made clear, but at least in terms of the general plan -- there is not an assumption you have to place facilities, and therefore here is the trade document. it is really a set of guidelines for saying how would you accomplish -- what kinds of good things would you haveand so, i e point and provides us with tools but it certainly tells us how to p...

the utilities would be identified, and they would be relocated if necessary to service the facilities, and that would be at the utility company cost. supervisor wiener: what if the city wants to move it? it is not in the middle of the sidewalk, to pay for the relocation? >> these facilities, utility companies are normally controlled by the franchise agreement or their agreement with the city and pays for that, and those are always case specific as it relates to the utility company itself, so i really can only give you a broader answer that typically it would be under the utilities co...

i think that is only a good thing, and i think it is getting stronger, and i am up here speaking for the better streets plan, but i will say the better streets plan was developed by all the agencies to gather, and they are taking this back to their agencies and working with the agencies to do that. that said, i think to your earlier point, a supervisor, we can always strength and coordination, and it can only be good for the quality that we get, it i think your point, it has to come as early in the process as we can possibly make it, but i think there should be some event in of just ...