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I also have if our something i've been working on with our team here. it's a special report tonight on how donald trump's own employees, including some of his self-declared fixers, are now key in his impeachment probe and why democrats say it's that evidence from these people that has donald trump on the run like never before. it's a big deep dive that we've been working on. we have that tonight. and as if that wasn't enough, i have something even bigger. my colleague, rachel maddow, is here. she's live. she's talking all about the news, reactions to what we're learning today, and of course re...

What would actually happen? >> the law itself, the ethics and government act gives potential for the department of justice to seek civil penalties but it is also a crime under a criminal statute 18 usc section 2001 which makes it unlawful to make a fraudulent material statement in a government forum. trump may try to argument as rudy giuliani did that he didn't know last year but we have now learned that he did know at some point. frankly, i find it implausible that he ever didn't know. >> let me ask you this because this has to do with the payment. michael cohen took out a $130,000 home equit...

-- they haven't gotten a lot of attention. from the media perspective let's be honest about this. it is much easier to cover president trump's in the moment tweets than it is to do a big story or a big deep dive and research on his judicial appointments around the country. i think that is part of the factor here, too. it takes a lot more resources to do these stories, these deep dives on a judicial long-time supreme court justice elevated to a federal bench. that's also part of it. >> jon: here is how howard kurtz sees it. this is the emerging media narrative about trump. constantly getting ma...

Report. >> that's three of the last four weeks we've had the lowest level in four years? >> yes. good news, right? >> all right. thank you, becky. >> sure. did mitt romney really save the salt lake games? "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds with the big deep dive. in case you didn't notice mitt romney likes to talk about his time running the olympics. this is romney just last night. >> i also served in the olympics. look at my record running the olympics. i was fighting to save the

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