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Headlines now, they took that 7.5 million people who have signed up and they're taking that number out for a spin everywhere, everywhere they go and they're declaring that a success. he think he can mitigate a lot of that number about, particularly on the approval ratings but there will remain a chunk of people who just don't trust him. jon: worth pointing out that 7 1/2 million number was kind of an arbitrary figure in the beginning. it is just what the administration chose as its target. >> exactly. jon: the fact that they got there, maybe not a huge accomplishment. >> but again, they want t...

I'm up for the 30,000. martha: they will dole it out in little prizes, $6700, something like that. brad, we're laughing about this. this is an effort, big pr effort. an expensive pr effort in fact. $684 million in outreach. $41 million goes to a pr firm in federal tax dollars to help get people signed up is this a problem? >> this is a huge problem. it is stupid. only government comes up with a plan to spend millions of dollars to give $30,000 a way. this sounds like a perfect government program. if the obamacare was as popular the president said it would be, no incentive and no reason to conv...

Veiled threats. real journalists, i'm not not sure he is one, don't resort to revenge and acts of retaliation. do you find greenwald's remarks and indeed some his conduct, disturbing? >> well, unfortunately there are a lot of reporters who act a lot like glen greenwald. i think this is of a piece weed ward snowden himself. the notion this is just a benign whistle-blower with no motives to harm the united states is false and i think greenwald's motive all along here has been to harm the united states. the left internationally has been trying to reduce america's intelligence-gathering capabiliti...