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[ applause ] vice president harris has dedicated her life to public service. I know, i know that she loves our country. And i know that she will be a president for all americans. As a conservative, as a patriot, as a mother, as someone who reveres our constitution, i am honored to join her in this urgent cause. And there you have it. The democrats doing their coalition building with maybe the most unlikely pairing in recent history. Vice president kamala harris and liz cheney, even dick cheney, father of liz cheney, the man still vilified by democrats for his bullish defense of the iraq war as...

Over. >> what about the pardon saying he did it on purpose because he knew people would be paying attention? what was your reaction when i said that? >> well i thought he was kind of rebutting some of the media criticism that he was trying to hide this on a friday night and just went back in the face oh, no, i did this on purpose. it's hard to tell what the motivation was. this is a base vote pardon. the country is divide odd this. i don't think he lost any votes over it. but, you know, to his critics it just gives them one more reason to pile on. >> putting the storm aside, we've been talking...