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to trim all muof these programs. you want to skut with a scalpel as opposed to a chain saw. will there will be some areas where we actually increase spending. >> a live look at times square the day after the. good morning, it's friday, january 28th. >> did i hear that right? >> i don't know. clarify. >> the president is talking about just taking a scalpel to a $14.5 trillion debt and that actually increasing money in some areas. did he say that? maybe it was lost in trance hags. >> it might be p. >> more likely the latter. you injuries weren't pjust were attention. >> i have to wait ...

edited. what does our expert think? we'll tell you "today," what does our expert think? we'll tell you "today," thursday, july 15th, 2010. captions paid for by nbc-universal television and welcome to "today" on this thursday morning, i'm meredith vieira. >> and i'm matt lauer. this morning bp is dealing with yet another setback. we don't know just how big it is. but another setback at the site of that devastating oil leak in the gulf of mexico. >> shorting after getting the green light to go ahead with tests on a new tighter fitting cap those tests had to be put off yet again becau...