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Administration say the same thing, and they're worried they're going to trade down, but i just wanted to get that out there on the record because it's a point of, you know, they're keeping -- the republicans are keeping this from happening but right now, the status quo isn't the worst thing. so i think messaging is getting screwed up theory again. pandemic, endemic, these are not words that people use. explain to me where we are transitioning from and to in terms of what it means in every day life. >> well, look, we're in a pandemic right now where there's uncontrolled spread across the world ...

Pandemic, endemic, these are not words that people use. explain to me where we are transitioning from and to in terms of what it means in every day life. >> well, look, we're in a pandemic right now where there's uncontrolled spread across the world and across the united states for that matter. at some point, we're going to transition to a phase when it becomes a persistent risk. you don't have the extreme levels of virus that we have right now in certain parts of the country. that's when it becomes an endemic illness, like flu, enterovirus, it doesn't go away but we learn to deal with it as a...

A huge amount from trump, but the nominal position is he still supports many him to trump it's a binary point. i think it would be healthy if he set i'm if paul ryial personally said i'm not going to vote, he would get a huge backlash from trump supporters. there are a lot of trump loyalists out there, and they don't like it in a congressman or senator said i'm not for trump, but i think it would be healthy if trump were to do that. >> there have been angry protesters, with clinton and obama and bill clinton rallies. wearing offensive testify h shirts, but also something really terrible happen...

Dprsh where she said the independent for half measures is over, enough is enough. what is left to do that hasn't been done offer the last decade in terms of aeng prng the short answer is if the oo lot fmt north korea hoose already begun to sfrnl and there's black markets and gray marks. >> they're willing to have their people starve in order to support them. so sanctions aren't the answer. >> so is it a hilt response or nothing? >> at some point get swim many and now it's down to a binary