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Into national power. >> why are they? why are they? >> they are the ones who deal with practical matters and somebody like a chris christie in new jersey and frankly a rick perry in texas and ideally maybe even a governor romney in massachusetts. they deal across the aisle. they deal with practical issues. they can help the party sort of see where the country is going and move ahead in a practical matter and take credit for it if the party is smart enough to take advantage of that. >> eroll, you're making the point. practicality, bipartisan thinking, nonideological thinking is the reason peopl...

>> they are the ones who deal with practical matters and somebody like a chris christie in new jersey or nikki haley in south carolina and rick perry in texas and ideally maybe even governor romney in massachusetts. they deal across the aisle and they deal with the practical issues and they can help the party sort of see where the country's going and move ahead in a practical matter and take credit for it if the party is smart enough to take advantage of that. >> practicality, bipartisan thinking and nonideological thinking is the reason why people liked republican governors so easily. they do...

Matter and take credit for it if the party is smart enough to take advantage of that. >> practicality, bipartisan thinking and nonideological thinking is the reason why people liked republican governors so easily. they don't like to make a big ideological choice and giving a reasonable bipartisan, non-ideological answer. i haven't thought much about it and it sounds fine to me. it's a reasonable answer as a gi that doesn't give much thought to something and even if you're a governor. here's another example, on monday morning at a press conference to review the rnc's 2012 autopsy, the chairman ...

In new jersey or nikki haley in south carolina and rick perry in texas and ideally maybe even governor romney in massachusetts. they deal across the aisle and they deal with the practical issues and they can help the party sort of see where the country's going and move ahead in a practical matter and take credit for it if the party is smart enough to take advantage of that. >> practicality, bipartisan thinking and nonideological thinking is the reason why people liked republican governors so easily. they don't like to make a big ideological choice and giving a reasonable bipartisan, nonideolog...