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that maeds laeds me to the question, is he being intimidated by the pentagon. >> your dissertation of what can't happen, and the programs that have failed, whether it is the president intimidate et bit pentagon or whether there is a political cal clueless in this, i think the -- the calculus in this, the i think the president needs to listen that people want their sons and daughters home. they want to create jobs. they want to protect the educational system. make sure we have retirement. these are things people care about. healthcare. it is time we came home and that's what i will continue to insist on. i appreciate being with you. i've got to go vote right now. >> all right, congressman, thanks for joining us. go vote. >> let me bring barb and mark back in. i'm going back to this theory. you've said it is not right et cetera. no one else in washington talks about this. but the defense contractors make an untold sums of money from