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Strategy we need to have in the united states that speaks to our food system, our agricultural subsidy system. it speaks to what we feed our kids in our schools. how much sugar is put, additive sugar is put in these products that give these kids in our society diabetes. that's the real strategy that we need to talk about. not just whacking medicare so cancer patients can't get their drugs. >> all right. congressman tim ryan of ohio. always good to talk to you. michael steel, this tax bill if you look at polling is not popular. >> no. >> it polls in the 20s or lower in some cases. >> what the...

Soon to be welalthy kids. it is true the mandate is not popular but the way this works for tax reform or the tax cut, i should say, is that it gets rid of subsidies by getting rid of the mandate, and i don't believe getting rid of subsidies is going to end up being popular. >> we'll see about that. the mandate is unpopular. we know that. it polls unpopular no matter how you slice it. and the fact of the matter if the republican party is not a tax-cutting party, then it literally has no definition. it was two things. >> oh, that's going to be it? you think the pedophile killed the party? >> it ...

Able to get treated for anything at any stage of their life no matter the ka cost? >> single payer systems they rationalize health care toward the end of life. >> exactly. >> put another way, more than half the you and me on health care is going to be spent in the last year of our life, trying to prolong our life for a few weeks or months. >> and you get into incredibly expensive drugs that you'll need for an extended period of time. we should accept the consequences, which is as you point out, a lot of our health care dollars go to these kinds of purposes. >> it's a good answer for now, for t...

One of his key promises. >> not only that. well, i would agree. everything that's been said this morning, i concur with the analysis. i think what was so refreshing about mccain's statement was it sounded like a legislator. it sounded like someone who understands how policy is made and why policy is made. for him to state that look, i think there's shortcomings in obama care, this is him talking, but i'm unwilling to deprive millions of americans who now have health insurance of affordable insurance or at least affordable insurance at the moment is what you want from all legislators. two, it's...

They were not allowed into the secret meetings. we had no hearings. he didn't call us up to the white house to have listen to our ideas. and there are tremendous ideas on the democratic party and frankly, ideas in the republican party. and so for him to say obamacare failed, ask those people that have pre-existing conditions that are now covered. ask those people that didn't have coverage that now have it. ask those feeks as we've seen the personal bankruptcy get cut in half in america, can ask those folks that would have been bankrupt right now by medical bills that aren't because of obamacar...