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Sir Keir Starmer will say there is light at the end of the tunnel in the form of faster ecOnomic growth and falling nhs Waiting Lists, but hell warn there are no easy answers. Well bring you full coverage of that as it happens 2pm. The Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has addressed the cOnference in the last Hour And Lisa nandy, the secretary for culture, Media And Sport is expected to speak in about half an hour. So, dOnt anyOne tell me that was a protest. DOnt anyOne tell me that was about immigratiOn, policing or poverty. Plenty of people have strOng views On immigratiOn, crime, On the nhs and ...

Tomorrow night at the embassy. i guess it's hard to get rsvps when everybody that shows up doesn't always leave alive. that's a bit problem at ibatic. i want to remain hopeful that this is not one to be a swift desert justice. that it's one where we have more mutual cooperation on intelligence and move beyond a relationship based on strategic interests to one of shared values. but this is a problem. and this transition is a difficult one. but i don't think we can give up on saudi arabia. i think we have to hold them accountable if there was a senior moment in this activity. >> you have, to rig...

This. it's a similar approach the president took with health care reform, putting out this vague idea, i want to do this, now give me your ideas for how we should do this. given the urgency of the situation, sort of the vagueness, the lack of specifics here, seems to be a little bit problem low matic for the administration, doesn't it? >> no, i don't think so -- >> campbell -- >> let me have david respond to that. go ahead, david. >> i think the whole effort is problematic. one thing, for example, just for starters, mabus is a good fellow, i'm sure he'd do a very good job, if he had a full-tim...

Of people thought he had the answers to everything. but he was so good at what he did. he's worth the risk. same thing you could say with general grant. he has a little bit problem. many times drinking but lincoln loved the way he thought. what's better for the war? leave them in place. >> general patton was great. he was a great general. he didn't stop. i mean, robert e. lee drove him crazy. he said get this animal to stop, the famous quote. those are great generals. what has mcchrystal done over there? he's done nothing as far as i'm concerned. the fact is he was totally insubordinate. he br...

Miners and their families. you know, we've done our part. we came to give them an avenue to get out. that job is done. we've done everything the government has asked us to do and we're going to kind of watch from a distance. we'll head to santiago and spend a little time and hopefully by the time we're out of here, they've got them out and we can do a little celebrating in chile. >> you don't normally drill a hole that big around, obviously and along the way, you broke some bits. tell us what you hit. >> well, you know, to start, we hit a roof bolt obstruction. the passageway of this hole actu...