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It was a little bit of chaos. it is clear to me that mags had just let the dogs out. the two dogs that were out were really her pet dogs. one is grady, you have heard about a black lab, that's grady. that's buster's dog. the other is the yellow lab you heard about that's bubba. bubba was mine and maggie's dog but really a family dog. but bubba is the dog i hunted. i mean, maggie loved bubba. she loved grady, too, she had a special place for bubba. anyway when the dogs first were let out the first thing they would do is run. if you look at that overhead picture that you've seen they were plante...

Kennels? >> i went on the golf cart. >> was the golf cart at the house, the main house? >> yeah. it was. it was there most of the time. >> and when you got down to the kennels, what was happening? >> it was just what i thought that it was. it was a little bit of chaos. i mean, it was clear to me that mags had just let the dogs out. the two dogs that were out were really her pet dogs. one is grady that you have heard about a black lab, and that is grady, and that is buster's dog, and the other is a yellow lab, and that you have heard about is bubba that is my dog and it is really maggie and bus...

0 paul -- you could not be around him and not have a good time. >> were you close to paul? >> you couldn't be any closer. than paul paul and i and buster and i. he's wonderful, wonderful. >> one of the things you enjoyed doing together, just riding the property? >> i loved doing anything with paul paul. it was an absolute delight. but, yeah, one of the things, i mean paul's passion, paul was passionate about a lot of things, but that property was really a passion of his. he loved to do -- he loved to work it, he loved to work the fields, he loved to work the food plots, he loved to hunt. he wo...

0 popped and i undid the other tree and it was falling over and papa was laughing at me trying to get it back upright, and it was a fruit tree that i had been dealing with really for years, and it would not stand up straight. >> were you and paul having a good time at that point? >> you could not be around papa, you could not be around him and not have a good time. >> were you close to paul? >> you could not be any closer than papa and i and buster and i. he was wonderful. >> and one of the things that you enjoyed doing was just riding the property? >> i loved doing anything with papa. it was ...

0 >> you could not be around paul -- you could not be around him and not have a good time. >> were you close to paul? >> he couldn't be any closer than paul and i and buster and i. he was wonderful. wonderful. >> one of the things you enjoyed doing together was just riding the property? >> i loved doing anything with paul. he was an absolute delight. but yeah, one of the things -- i mean paul's passion -- paul was passionate about a lot of things but that property was really a passion of his. he loved to do -- he loved to work it. he loved to work the fields. he loved to work the food plots. h...