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Got to get the bodies in there. jillian: how do you do that when people don't want to go back to work? todd: start giving them free money. >> it is more than that. some kind of cultural shift where people just don't want to work. not saying everybody, not a blanket statement. todd: back in the 40s there were a lot of people who didn't want to go on a 4 year vacation to europe or japan, they didn't want to fight a war but they had to in order to secure our american freedom and make sure we aren't speaking german or japanese, they did it, they are now lauded as the greatest generation and we hav...

Calling it a national embarrassment, wolf. so he's not drawing a blanket statement, saying that these prosecutors should get off the hook, but he is making the observation, he feels, that there are differences and he thinks it's worth pointing out. >> very interesting, indeed. whitney, thank you very much. whitney wild reporting. let's get some insight from our legal analyst, eliot williams. what's your reaction to the judge's decision that the january 6th rioters, at least some of them, are being treated more harshly or unfairly? >> look, wolf, we have to get off of this fantasy that exists i...

The january 6th documents. is that a blanket statement? are you evaluating the request from the investigation group coming in one by one? to not asserting executive privilege. >> obviously some of this is predicting what we don't know yet. that's his overarching view. >> is there something you would not turn over? >> i don't think i will get ahead of a hypothetical. that's important for people to know and understand. that's the principle with which we are approaching this. >> on the government shutdown any determination as to what happens to on-going covid related work during a potential shutd...

Quayle interrupts, just don't, just stop. pence pressed again. it was easy for quayle to make a blanket statement from political winter. he wanted to know whether there was a glimmer of light legally or constitutionally to perhaps put a pause on the certification if there were ongoing court cases and legal challenges. quote, forget, quayle repeated again. we are back with bob woodward and robert costa. whether intentional or not i don't know whether there was any reporting that made pence look so horrible, so pa threat knick the lens of history and quayle so valiant. tell me more about this in...

Blanket statement from political winter. he wanted to know whether there was a glimmer of light legally or constitutionally quayle repeated forget it. pence finally agreed acting to overturn the election would be antithetical to his traditional view of conservatism. one man could not effectively throw the election to the house of representatives. quayle told pence to let it go. mike, don't even talk about it he said. pence paused, you don't know the position i'm in, he said. even if you're someone like mike pence who's very invested in publicly assuaging and placating your boss, if you're real...