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well, my guest today is the influential chair of the german parliament's defence committee, marie—agnes strack—zimmermann. so, is germany ready to leave its pacifism behind and project its military power? marie—agnes strack—zimmerman, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for the invitation. well, it's a pleasure to be here. let's start with that word that olaf schulz used right after putin's invasion of ukraine, "zeitenwende". he promised it would be that word, a turning point for germany and its strategic thinking. more than a year later, do we see real evidence of that ...

is the influential chair of the german parliament's defence committee, marie—agnes strack—zimmermann. so, is germany ready to leave its pacifism behind and project its military power? marie—agnes strack—zimmerman, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for the invitation. well, it's a pleasure to be here. let's start with that word that olaf schulz used right after putin's invasion of ukraine, "zeitenwende". he promised it would be that word, a turning point for germany and its strategic thinking. more than a year later, do we see real evidence of that turning point, that z...

that's the focus of tonight's "the angle." cutting losses. the goal we send is unobtainable or that the cost of achieving it is too high. instinctively we feel like ending something prematurely may be as a sign of weakness and then quitting is for losers. but especially in politics, the opposites often true. joe biden's president, there are sadly many areas where america needs to cut their losses. we need to cut our losses in ukraine. if you hadn't noticed, the ukrainians aren't winning. our own nation is hurting and we've allocated more than $53 billion and counting and humanitarian...

Yes, yes, definitely we see it. it's a really important word, but it's, of course, not only a word, you need it in your mind. um, first of all, we have now the 100 billion euros for the bundeswehr. this is really important, more money for our army. we are looking for it for years. you said not so long ago that the german army has been bled dry. so now it's the right direction. but that's an extraordinary thing for you to say. how could germany allow its military machine to become useless? yeah, it's...it�*s a story of the ending of the cold war, 1990. and everybody thought all over the world...