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policy—making principle — putting business first, not military power — well, suddenly it looked like weakness. chancellor olaf scholz promised dramatic change. my guest is state secretary for economic cooperation niels annen. so, has germany got a new strategic vision? niels annen, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. pleasure. well, it's great to be here. let's start with the war in ukraine. i think there's no doubt that putin's invasion of ukraine shocked germany. would it be fair to say it has also destabilised germany? no, i don't think so. but it certainly shocked germany becau...

well, my guest today is the influential chair of the german parliament's defence committee, marie—agnes strack—zimmermann. so, is germany ready to leave its pacifism behind and project its military power? marie—agnes strack—zimmerman, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for the invitation. well, it's a pleasure to be here. let's start with that word that olaf schulz used right after putin's invasion of ukraine, "zeitenwende". he promised it would be that word, a turning point for germany and its strategic thinking. more than a year later, do we see real evidence of that ...

is the influential chair of the german parliament's defence committee, marie—agnes strack—zimmermann. so, is germany ready to leave its pacifism behind and project its military power? marie—agnes strack—zimmerman, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for the invitation. well, it's a pleasure to be here. let's start with that word that olaf schulz used right after putin's invasion of ukraine, "zeitenwende". he promised it would be that word, a turning point for germany and its strategic thinking. more than a year later, do we see real evidence of that turning point, that z...

chancellor olaf scholz promised dramatic change. my guest is the state secretary for economic cooperation niels annen. so has germany got a new strategic vision? niels annen, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. pleasure. it is great to be here. let's start with the war in ukraine. i think there is no doubt that putin's invasion of ukraine shocked germany. would it be fair to say it has also destabilised germany? no, i don't think so but it certainly shocked germany because a lot of our economic model was based on the assumption that we would continue using cheap russian natural gas and i...

my guest is state secretary for economic cooperation niels annen. so, has germany got a new strategic vision? niels annen, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. pleasure. well, it's great to be here. let's start with the war in ukraine. i think there's no doubt that putin's invasion of ukraine shocked germany. would it be fair to say it has also destabilised germany? no, i don't think so. but it certainly shocked germany because a lot of our economic model was based on the assumption that we would continue using cheap russian natural gas. and it was also based in a kind of historic, should...