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Do you think that ten, 20-years from now the office of governor will be almost like the office of the left governor of the providences in canada pretty much a ritual office a handshaking office? >> well they are going to have a fight with some governors. i don't think there's any question you and i are well aware in washington in higher circles while not too owl spo n outspoken about it they nurse the idea that we have out warned this system of ours. they are going to find they are just as wrong about that as some of the bleeding hearts have been wi about the idea we can do away with nationali...

It was done. we had something nearly 3,000 interviews. you asked them different questions, different views on economic issues, social issues, all these various issues and our pollsters, we used the obama pollster and romney pollster and they worked together and segmented them into eight groups. two are truly liberal groups. the bleeding hearts and the gospel left. two of the groups are hard right. the radio sort of talk radio right and the evangelicals, 28%. what was stunning is how big the middle truly was. okay. some of it is obvious, suburban woman our minivan moderates, highly educated bus...

If we can, guys. one of the groups to the left, you have is the gospel left. how do you describe those folks? >> tamron, the people in the gospel left are predominantly african-american and what sets them apart from the bleeding hearts is that they are more religious and more conservative on some of the social issues like abortion and gay marriage. that's how you end up distinguishing them from the bleeding hearts who are folks who like government interaction, they like government action a lot and very liberal on social issue and less religious. >> the mini van moderates, obviously you would t...

You should not be doing that if you have something to lose. only people without jobs should be doing this. >> the world is getting crazier and crazier and people need the adrenalin high. and i think it's up to rich people to do whatever they want with whatever animal they want. i am sure that guy will say, protect the animals, we cannot do that stuff to the animals. i do not need to hear it from bleeding hearts like you. >> it's coming when he asks me. >> there's a show called "hannity's america." i think you should be on the panel. he attacked you, over your stance. >> i tell you what happene...

we still don't know this -- how when he was literally caught in the act raping a boy in a penn state locker room shower, did he get away with it and go on raping more boys? graduate assistant mike mcqueary saw the him with the boy in the shower and he froze and did not stop sandusky, but he did report what he saw, the legendary head coach joe paterno what he saw. and joe paterno told his bosses and everyone who had the power to stop jerry sandusky had the information they needed to stop jerry sundusky, but they didn't. why didn't they? that is the "360" exclusive that could point to ...