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was listening to the great interesting conversation with kelly about it being difficult to prove -- but this stench think, you know, you remember there used to be a day when that kind of stuff just lead to shame in and of itself. and certainly kept you out of political life later. but that's not there anymore either. whether you can prove or not prove quid pro quo, that absence of revolving door that you described is compelling. >> well, the shame issue here, i, think is compelling, ali, because obviously, the republicans, particularly trump partisans, are aware that it is shameful t...

and certainly kept you out of political life later. but that's not there anymore either. whether you can prove or not prove quid pro quo, that absence of revolving door that you described is compelling. >> well, the shame issue here, i think, is compelling, ali, because obviously, the republicans, particularly trump partisans, are aware that it is shameful to use government service or family connection to government service, to make private gain for yourself, and have private business game. because they use this as a way to try to attack president biden's family, for example, all the...

Cost of dog must round of getting elected governor would be this devastating for the country. joe biden or any other democrat is unlikely to win the presidency without winning pennsylvania. and then a state that has traditionally been blue, or at the very least a bluest shade of purple, having a governor who's already demonstrated that he has no qualms about using his powers to change the vote to his preferred candidates should terrify all of us, wherever we live. joining us now is that attorney general, and the democratic nominee for governor, who's gonna run against doug mastriano, josh shap...