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>> it seems to me they are in boat loads of trouble. not just legal but reputation damage it is significant. this is true for so many people who have gone to work for donald trump. many of them were aware of the risks going in. they worked for him any way. that was always the thing. stunned me, there were people bright, rudy giuliani, all sorts of exposures, all of these people were bright yet they still were asked to do things that crossed lines that they knew they should not be crossed. they crossed them any way. just, just to stay in the good graces of the man who has been discredited and d...

Saw how they dealt with members who became distractions or embarrassments. i mean, we used to do these things internally. i was involved with conversations to get members of congress to resign in order to protect the institution from further damage. and these, again, were for issues of conduct or misconduct. in the cases of gosar and greene, those were bad acts. i mean, these were really embarrassing and offensive to the institution, and that's where it gets back to this issue of maintaining a standard of conduct. that is the role of the leaders. if they don't do it, then that conduct becomes ...

Let's talk about solutions. what can we do to depolarize? can we unite a divided america? john avlon has some thoughts on that tonight in his reality check. >> as you know there have been boat loads of books and studies warning about the dangers to our democracy. all that is starting to sink in obviously culminating with january 6 and trump's attempt to overturn the election. a new npr poll shows 64% of americans think our democracy is in danger. in the search for solutions one recent study jumped out at me. it's by the folks at the carnegie endowment for international peace particularly jenni...

>> ashley: fraternal order of police demanding an apology for that piggy backing off defund the police movement. stacey abrams spent more than a million dollars on private security in 2021 despite her support to defund the police. my question here is how in the same breath is she going to pay boat loads of money for private security and try and take away the security, that sense of security that the community and the public has with police? >> well, it's a tale as old as time. democrats doing one thing and saying another. i believe it was representative cori bush who said of the same thing her...

Privately behind the scenes, that when it comes to it, there are still an incredibly small number of republicans who are willing to stand up and publicly take on former president trump. and that is the power he still has. >> and they did take away a lot of his social media platforms, but he seems to be having no problem in raising boat loads of money. >> yeah, well, statements are the new tweets, right? he basically puts in statements, what he would have tweeted out in the same sort of punctuation, the same sort of nasty nicknames, and then, frankly, reporters and other people do that work for...