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>> that is not true. what we have always said is that discussions of the medical device tax or other elements within the affordable care act that lawmakers want to talking about in an effort to improve the affordableable care act we are willing to have. but not as in. the context of or as ran some for opening the government. that is why a provision like that appears in latest proposal that seems to be going nowhere from house republicans because it's an effort to try to buy votes from tea party republican who's shut this government down in the first place. >> they're not telling the ...

0 about default by another name. when people talk about paying some bills but not others, they are talking about entering a realm that this country and this government has never been in, which is picking and choosing who gets paid. and when they get paid, and that has tremendous negative consequences for our economy, not all of which are noble beyond the fact we know they're bad. >> do you have a game plan? obviously this is no longer hypothetical. there's a real possibility congress doesn't act whatever the deadline exactly is. do you have a game plan what to do? >> this is something that the...