>> i thought he did really -- >> on policy, he did really well. >> if you take away the last stumbles, if i'm bloomberg and i'm watching, i say to myself you've got biden do pretty well, pete doing pretty well. where is the room for the moderate to come in. then biden blows four tires in the last ten minutes. if you're bloomberg you start looking. >> or deval patrick. >> or deval patrick. you say how many times can biden do that and survive? >> this is akin to the booker point, biden, i wouldn't say he was a house of fire in any of the debates that we've been to. and yet he comes -- kind of bu...