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Grassroots honk and wave are iowa and new hampshire and you can hear some of that in some of his competitors like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. >> yeah, you do, bret. it will be an interesting case study to see whether the public on the democratic side will be so repelled by a campaign that doesn't even qualify for debate, and spends staggering sums of money, his own money, whether that will turn off democrats. i have a hunch there is a thirst in democratic ranks for a moderate which is why you see joe biden who has i think manifold problems as a candidate still managing to bop along ne...

Times ten, when you have the highest profile prisoner in the entire bop. what happened is hard to decipher. back to a very good original question -- >> harris: hold on -- >> can these guards cooperate? >> harris: three doors down, reportedly, was el chapo guzman. >> and he has been handled fund, which is a good point made, and you've made it. common sense and human nature is that when you have jeffrey epstein derek he is much even closer. these guards have been charged with falsifying paperwork. i've been into coke of these cases, when in federal court and one in state court. the point is, wil...

Internet for furniture sales and benefit websites and moved around the common area while epstein was inside his cell just about 15 feet from the guards desk. lawyer for one of the guards says they are being "scapegoated." >> this incident was a black eye on the entire bureau of prison. >> meantime, today the director of federal bureau of prisons dr. kathleen hossler was grilled on capitol hill. >> has anybody had bop yet been disciplined or terminated for their conduct that led to the jeffrey epstein death? >> we're still waiting for the conclusion of the investigation center. >> we have some ...

Hundreds of hours with b.o.p. and the brave men and women who work hard there, it's a toxic organization. as well, the sheriff's office that he was incarcerated at in florida, which called him, oh, this will be an atypical offender in that he is -- everyone needs to go. the new director needs to clean house. she was the director in 1996 during the case. >> sean: we'd hold them responsible. last word? >> bill clinton did not tell the truth about his associations, the flights he took, trips he made. h my question is, why did he lie about that? they are going to start interviewing pilots and help...

And i want to point out, i have spent hours upon hours -- hundreds of hours with b.o.p. and the brave men and women who work hard there, it's a toxic organization. as well, the sheriff's office that he was incarcerated at in florida, which called him, oh, this will be an atypical offender in that he is -- et cetera, everyone needs to go. the new director needs to clean house. >> sean: we'd hold them responsible. last word? >> bill clinton did not tell the truth about his associations, the flights he took, trixie made. my question is why did he lie about that? they are going to start interviewi...