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Things in the last couple of minutes and i'll look foolish to my senators, my house members and my base if he doesn't hold firm on the wall. >> yeah. and he brings up the concrete wall again which is something that he had done away with because he's caving to the democrats who want the steel wall. he's a jello. >> he is right that in the senate barack obama and hillary clinton voted for a border wall and border fencing. he's right. it's simply because it's trump and not any other president. i just want a couple of hundred miles of wall and let's close with this national emergency conversation....

Democrats were for border fencing in the past when it wasn't donald trump in the oval office. there's politics here everywhere. you have got also senators from states that have huge federal employee populations, who are having their workers furloughed, all fired up, saying there's no need for. this house democrats are going to put a variety of funding bills on the floor that has no to do with border security, hoping republican members will say, well, i have to vote for, this i'm in favor of funding the irs during tax season and other nonrelated border security ish oos. so they're clearly hopin...

Time, but in american history. and there's absolutely no sense how congress is going to get the rest of the government. it's not just the department of homeland security. it's eight other bills that need to get passed, and there's no pathway. meanwhile, the president's giving his oval office address tonight, and there's a lot of things happening, but the government is still shut down and there's absolutely no path. that's not an exaggeration. zero path to get out of this mess. >> so it sounds like he's just trying to strong arm his way through, jake. >> it's unclear to me what his game plan is...

Tables on the democrats and that's why he is giving a speech. that requires two things. it requires him to be eloquent and it requires him to be factual. i do believe as you know, i have been supportive of border fencing before donald trump was around. i think if he were to explain why it's necessary and thou helped in the past 12 to 20 years to considerably reduce the tensions, 2006 we had a million detentions. we are down to 300,000. that's a big number. the border patrol is overburdened. we have an increase in petitions and the bulk of opioids are coming to the southern border. if he sticks...

Even the border patrol chief from the obama administration said border fencing works if it's factual. we can start. >> there is probably 15 democratic senators willing to vote for fencing. >> that's where he can make a point. he has a beef with the fact that congressman dated he carry outlaws without giving him enough resources to do so. president obama had the same issue with deportations and he did the actions that got halted by the courts. he hasn't quite made the argument. >> if he doesn't it eloquently and factually. all of those things. we will watch at 9:00 p.m. tonight. stick around. u...