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Is lying or not. he was supposed to be deported seven time felon with five times he was deported and came back. look at the character. i do believe logic? do i see criminal? >> jesse: he a heroin junky. he has wraps for that, too. dana, the family tried to sue because sanctuary city. sheriff had him in his custody never alerted ice and he goes out and murders and blocked that lawsuit and can't sue on those grounds either. >> dana: those probably true but not specific to this case and this charge. you mentioned that the prosecution was the one that basically screwed it up from the beginning. an...

Stops firing. that was his defense and he actually got off on that because, the prosecution overcharged and they screwed that up. >> geraldo: it was for the jury to decide whether sar cas stickily as you delivered that. >> jesse: it's realistic and you know it. geraldo geraldo a believable defense or not. it wasn't for the judge to decide. >> jesse: i agree. geraldo geraldo withhold this defense. >> katie: bottom line is he shouldn't have been here in the first place. he had seven previous convictions. i had multiple convictions for illegal reentry into the country which goes to the border sec...

Employees hostage. i lived through a government shutdown in 2013, where we had to go through. i was an fbi agent. i was a spmplt we had to go through the tough decisions of essential and non-essential employees. we had a furloughed staff. there are national implications to doing that. when you get to air safety, having air traffic controllers furloughed makes air travel much less safe. the irony here, victor with resimultaneously defunding border security. the three entities responsible all in the name of a border security argument. it makes no sense. we have to open the government up. then we...

There is some political to tensy for the border security argument here over the next several days. >> i think part of it is choosing to center the argument or choosing not to center the argument. there is no border crisis aside from the one where we are jailing children and poisoning them with gas. so i think you see democrats pushing back on donald trump. you don't see them talking about the migrant crisis at the border because that is largely a right wing invented crisis. yes, there are people at the border. and occasionally throughout our history there have been. but we saw in the lead-up t...

Disappointsments congress has yet to pass an immigration bill. she's optimistic the house will pass it now senate has passed it. i asked her about continuing criticism from opponents who say they can't vote for it unless there's better security at the border. >> the border security argument to me, it creates the image that somehow we're not or haven't done anything at the border. and it's simply lucy goosy down there. exactly the opposite is true much more manpower, technology, infrastructure, crime and illegal immigration at 40-year lows. we continue to work on that border. >> interesting alm...