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Agents but don't supporting a wul and same fox news poll that couple out earlier this week with, also shows that the most americans and majority don't support the way the president is handling immigration very large so i think politically, no. in fact, if anything -- if you want to use midterms a referendum on president handling of border security america is clear and they don't want this approach. but i do think it is or very telling listening to the president's comment earlier today in the rose garden, i mean, he's clearly opening the door for -- for some dialogue about about what a comprehe...

What do you think here >> well, i think one thing to keep in mind is that in this past week democrats in the house did signal they were preparing a border security package. they made clear it doesn't include money for trump's wall but in a somewhat rational world it wouldn't be that hard to envision a solution where there is some money for border fencing and border repairs that trump can convince his base or his wall and democrats could convince their base is not his wall so short of that, i won't discount the national emergency as a way for trump to attempt to save face on this. >> that is ce...

They will succeed? >> well, there's no sign that a break-through is emanate because the president still has not backed down interest his demand that any bill to reopen the government include some sort of funding for the wall, whether that's the funding that he's asked for or a down payment, as he put it. so there's a question as to whether or not the president will be willing to accept, perhaps, softer language that simply refers to a border security package more broadly. that is, of course, what democrats had offered in the first place. and there was some frustration between the scenes among ...

>> well, we're certainly hopeful that he will follow the recommendations that about two dozen senators, half democrats, half republicans have said, open up government. give us a chance to work on a border security package. we'll work together in a bipartisan manner and produce a result. so what we're hoping to hear is that we're going to give a headache a chance to heal. we'll end this government shutdown and then we'll be able to deal with the border issues. we already saw some positive results. we saw as a result of our conversations the majority leader mcconnell and senator schumer engaged ...

Pressure and danger of this sho shutdown, the president needed to get involved. >> do you think this is maybe where the president is talking about some sort of agreement with congress, or do you think this is going to be him going it alone in some regard and taking some sort of executive action to reopen the government, or at least for the funding? >> i never try to speak for president trump, but what i hope we'll hear is that we will have a period of time the government will be open, the workers will be able to get their back pay and current pay. agencies will be up again at full strength and...