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Countries setting its own commitments not the big u.n. context. i think that's promising. >> how realistic is a unified consensus, a mandate and how important at this point? >> i think they'll get a unified agreement. it will be like an umbrella agreement under which lots of things continue to happen. if they don't get an agreement, that will be a huge setback. i think a lot of businesses for example are looking at this process with great skepticism. people been talking about this for 20 years, not doing much. if they have a giant meeting like this and one that ends in disaster, confidence in ...

>> the way things work right now it's top-bottom. you get a dictation from the top as to what amendments will be permitted with strong encouragement how to vote. that means 20 or 30 congressmen out of 435 are controlling what passes and does not pass the united states house of representatives. that's wrong. if that's the way it will operate well the other 400 of us can stay home if 20 to 30 cupel two three dozen are going to have that kind of power. i believe we ought to have a bottom up process where each member with his idea of merits can be presented in committee and if they are good and ac...

The hands of the powerful chairman and the leadership and your process issues, some of them, i'm very sympathetic to. could you outline what are the new processes you want to get out of the new speaker? >> the way things work right now it's top-bottom. you get a dictation from the top as to what amendments will be permitted with strong encouragement how to vote. that means 20 or 30 congressmen out of 435 are controlling what passes and does not pass the united states house of representatives. that's wrong. if that's the way it will operate well the other 400 of us can stay home if 20 to 30 cup...

That debate there. i believe a bottom up process works better than top down. >> i agree with you on your process changes that you want. if a speaker candidate said to you "i will give you everything you want in process on issues, we will just have to agree to disagree. could you live with that compromise? that at least you have to process that you want so your view on immigration or taxation or whatever the issue is could come to a vote in the committee with the new process? >> it's a weighing process but the short answer is yes. if we can make enough headway on process issues, that helps to o...

>> no. the reason is because i want to show the -- show the congress that this is the way we should be running our congress. i think most people, even those that were running initially, are now moving towards the wording that says we need to have a member, bottom-up process. we need to change the rules, all these things that are now being talked about as reforms. it's something i started off with to say we've got to transform the house. so until there is a commitment to do that, i'm going to stay in the race. >> what about -- you make the point about the top bit of congress, the bulk of the fo...