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currently suspended from practicing law and unable to make money that way, but mr. giuliani is earning very little income from his podcast and his radio show, making him exactly almost every other podcaster in america. now, technically, today was a very small procedural victory for giuliani. the bankruptcy judge granted giuliani an exemption. and that exemption allows mr. giuliani to try to challenge the $148 million in damages that he owes georgia election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss for publicly and repeatedly defaming them. the exemption does not mean that mr. giuliani can...

talk about a recruitment effort for -- right there. >> thank you, my friend, thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. not the words of an angry leprechaun. that is how rudy giuliani's lawyer described his client assets at bankruptcy court this morning. the lawyer went on to explain that, not only is giuliani currently suspended from practicing law and unable to make money that way. but mr. giuliani is earning very little income from his podcast and his radio show, making him exactly almost every other podcaster in america. now...

mike pence have asked in recent days about conversations with ump from, his lawyers and others in his inner circle who sought to substitute trump allies for certified electors from some states joe biden won. that's according to two people familiar with the matter, both spoke anonymously. prosecutors asked hours of detailed questions about meetings trump led in december 2020 and january 2021. his pressure campaign on pence to overturn the election and what instructions trump gave his lawyers and advisors about fake electors and sending electors back to the states. some of the question...

Honed in on the former president himself. they've been asking about conversations with him, meetings that he led and sat in on, and basically a lot of the questioning that i think would track with what the january 6th committee was -- has successfully accomplished and was able to even do publicly. i think the question from here now is how widespread is this investigation going to spread. how many more people other than cassidy hutchinson, greg jacobs, marc short have appeared before the grand jury. we have already picked up that there are likely some other white house aides who have already be...

To be able to win it. >> here's the next question. you'll do that? >> i'm not in for a fight for the sake of it. yes. >> you'll do that. >> you have watched me. sean, i came here in '06 when we were in the minority. who traveled the country recruiting people to defeat the democrats? who created young gun, who wrote pledge to america? sean, that was me. >> i agree with all that. there hasn't been a vision, i suggested in 2014. when boehner said these are false prophets, those were promises republicans made. i find those comments despicable he made over the weekend. am i right? >> look, i am the...