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Verifiable, we find out, and if the report does not find what is obvious, what we arty know, premeditated fraud against a fisa court, i would say we are screwed asfi a country for a lot of reasons. joining us now, fox news contributor sara carter, and carter page. let me turn to you, carter page, you lost your constitutional rights. you told me, you serve your country, you, every time you went abroad, did you or did you not come back and talk to ouran intelligence people, give them everything they wanted, and did they notid at times ask you to o things for them? >> i served my country for over...

Or communications with the president." well, with us tonight to carry on our conversation, mimi rocah, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. now a distinguished fellow ain criminal justice at the pace university school of law. tim o'brien, executive editor of "bloomberg opinion" and author of "trump nation: the art of being the donald." good evening and welcome to you both. counselor, is this what you would call in the law a star witness? >> absolutely. you know, this is the kind of witness that prosecutors dream about. for a couple of reasons. one, as you point...

70-year-old saying they are better than they used to be? biden was already in the senate and already a public figure in his 50s. i can tell you that donald trump has been loony for 30 years because i know. so, i mean, who are we talking about? >> i think the question that is before democratic primary voters is, if generational change is on the menu, it was. i thought beto and buttigieg had great nights last night. but the idea that julian castro had to take it on himself is something that it feels like democrats didn't welcome. >> right. i think there are a consuuple o things at play here. he ...

Michelle, i can imagine that meeting might be a little awkward. >> i don't think anything was as awkward as that interview. along with the word nasty, he managed some complimentary language toward the duchess. i think this meeting, this trip could very well be awkward with the royal family but not for this reason. when you think about the things that the royal family is great at, they would be duty, protocol, being polite. not get sboting into the fray o things. not getting into fights with people. not showing emotion and keeping their silence. if there is to be awkwardness, i would say these ...

Border or this policy, we'll bring it to you live. in the meantime, picking up where julia left off, neekirstj nielsen tweeted, there is no policy saying you have to separate. that is correct. the effect of the policies the trump administration put into effect, it separates kids from their parents. we are getting into a matter of semantics at this point. >> the fact is, with any political considerations aside, the family separations are a result of the zero tolerance policy. when i watch kirstjen nielsen's speech, she spoke about the misinformation out this about the policies. a couple things ...