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Center that issue. with respect to rob herr, the dye is cast. that is already in place. it just cannot be that we're going to have a slew of special counsels. it just way too distracting the body politic and this sort of policy issues we should be worried about. >> joyce, i think you no he this by now, one thing i keep my eye on is the right-wing is being too kind. we'll call it spin. the spin that right has put on and the crumb or the bread crumb they keep dropping is how does a lawyer do the search of biden's office or home? well in, the case of pence, a lawyer is doing the search of pence's...

Calling whom, same for text messages. but keep in mind it's not the substance. the content of those calls or messages, don. but they think they can make a road map. >> how can that help if it doesn't have content? it does offer bread crumb clues like a gps. >> and you're calling in a witness, if you're about to have a witness come in, you would like to be able to say to that witness, hypothetically, eric trump at 1:42 you called so-and-so. what was that about? let's not forget, they have a lot of text messages, and thanks to former chief of staff mark meadows, they have a lot of very valuable ...

President's state of mind and his intent. >> yeah. i think it really does provide a roadmap. it tells the story of where the committee is going to go. i don't think it is a coincidence that the committee mentions in this letter the president's state of mind. three times. because they want to find out from mccarthy what the president's intent was before, during, and after the insurrection. and they believe, of course, that mccarthy, having had all these conversations with the president, with his staff, can shed some light on it. but there is another bread crumb in this letter that i don't think...

>> yeah. i think it really does provide a roadmap. it tells the story of where the committee is gonna go. i don't think it is a coincidence that the committee mentions in this letter the president's state of mind. three times. because they want to find out from mccarthy what the president's intent was before, during, and after the insurrection. and they believe, of course, that mccarthy, having had all these conversations with the president, with his staff, can shed some light on it. but there is another bread crumb in this letter that i don't think we should overlook, and that is over the que...

Call records for, you know, donald trump's other children, zo don, jr., ivanka or son-in-law jared kushner. just for context, these call records, they're called call detail records, cdrs. they are giving the committee a phone log. this is date, time, length of incoming, outgoing calls, who's calling whom, same for text messages. but keep in mind it's not the substance. the content of those calls or messages, don. but they think they can make a road map. by putting this together. >> how can that help if it doesn't have content? it does offer bread crumb clues like a gps. >> and you're calling i...