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Striking even after everything that happened in the last couple of months, michael flynn's departure and the stories about jared kushner and the meetings with kislyak, trump still seems determined to push ahead with a better relation with russia. to me the amazing thing although the story is wonderful and revealing it's the fact that we are talking about these diplomatic compounds that trump is going to meet with putin in july, that the statements from if white house after sergey lavrov came to the oval office for the famous meeting. talked fondly with him about russia in other words, brian, t...

Doesn't give up, brian. you know, maybe we are going to talk about the climate deal, the paris acard in the next segment. i think part of what was appealing to trump about pulling out of that paris accord was it was something he could unilaterally. trump is the chief executive. your jaws are all on the floor. just watch me because i did it. as opposed to health care reform, tax reform, where he has to go through the congress. it's boring, there are people challenging him and making it complicated. that's not how he likes to operate. i think with the travel ban it is a similar thing. he can do ...

>> right, brian. the followthrough that it suggests of national policy takes it to that next level. you know, the most damning scenario on table here is that there was some kind of collaboration between the trump campaign and the kremlin that helped trump defeat hillary clinton and that there was a payoff on side for the russians, which was that there would be an easing of american policy towards russia, and that would fund lee involve the lifting of sanctions. brian, i also just want to point out here -- so, i mean it's remarkable there was this push to move so quickly on that front but trump...

Things russia and all things putin has been especially maddening to you as you and i have talked for months about it now, given your history. do you feel, in light of the investigations we know that are going on, that it has a finite time left? do you feel we are nearing the end? or has this moved -- has this normalized public opinion in some way? >> i actually don't know the answer to that, brian. i mean, the survey data shows that a lot of people, more people distrust the russians and putin than before. and there also is a great curiosity in knowing the facts. i find this when i speak public...

People felt very, very strongly about, and that russia had violated the sovereignty of another nation, one of the first times since world war ii and we really needed to do something very, very serious. the giving back of these compounds is also very peculiar. the way diplomacy works is through reciprocity. the russians are the kind of reciprocity kings. >> countries expect it from each other. >> countries expect it. in a sense you are giving this back without getting anything for it. donald trump is a business man. it's like giving away a piece of real estate without getting anything back. it'...