Longer, i think something like 30 years on average as opposed to dollar bills which last like four to five years, no problems getting a coin for your vending machine and the mining industry, frankly, would benefit big time, so is there at least some merit in eliminating the buck bill? >> right, that's the main issue. the vending machine industry and the mining industry like this idea, for the mining industry it's just good for them, they'll sell the metal, for the vending machine industry it's more convenient for them. on the other hand you have the people who manufacturer the dollar bills and...