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Fairness, market openings, better labor values, intellectual property -- >> laura: wait a second, david stockman, reagan's budget guy, reagan's guy -- >> my former boss. >> laura: your former boss. said this today. lunch. >> i think it's a great big p.r. stunt. this is not maga, this will do t for the american workers. nafta was never a problem. the whole thing is, like, a phony issue. >> well, dave is an old friend of mine. he and i disagree in a whole bunch of things the last 30 or so years. by the by, this will help workers. there is good domestic content, there is good north american conte...

Trump administration. this was wage growth in the obama administration. it has slowed significantly under president trump's administration. the whole thing is a little bit of a puzzlement. >> and when people talk about wages in some instances being higher, those are were high skilled jobs. the low wage jobs which, remember, that's where -- >> that's where the problem is. >> it's where it was during the obama administration. it's where it remains. joining us sam collme lander. >> he's the budget guy. >> he is. is current strength of the economy. is it a sign president trump's policies are worki...

Good for him for coming to that conclusion. brian: when john mccain went thumbs down, that killed his ideal which would have been entitlement reform. he wanted to start there. your thoughts? >> well, paul ryan is a budget guy and he is a tax guy so ultimately agree with matt that the victory of his career even more so than entitlement reform has always been reforming our tax code for the first time since 1986. i don't agree with everything that happened in the tax bill but it is amajor accomplishment for his leadership. matt is right when he said paul didn't want to be speaker. what else he di...

Here. the journey joins me now. last night when i was talking to you, i was in new york and you were on satellite. i played something that a guy from i think was from department of homeland security and adviser to the president saying it was a text book operation, this is how it's done. you said that's just bunk, that this is not a text book operation. >> i think we got to adapt and overcome. the plan didn't survive contact with the storm. people was leading ahead of time, we had you have a government here ahead of time. the storm overmatched the capacity that was here and it broke the infrast...

Figure out how to i guess, interim rhett budget speak. and i recommend everybody be sure to find you. at the budget guy. follow this guy on twitter. it will make you smarter. and speaking of rosy scenarios, mark sanford, a member of the house budget committee and he inspired me on that last question. let me start with what you heard from the congressional budget office on health care. the remarked up bill by cbo says, for $31 billion more, you covered 1 million more people. the uncovered estimate went from $24 million to $23 million but the deficit savings went down $31 billion. satisfactory...