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We have had our lights off. we had to live with that. you have an empathy. i think that is what's missing. there is a gap in empathy because you have by and large very wealthy people in congress and talking about people like paul ryan and despite the fact that the family wealth came from government programs and government contracts, they don't see that as the same thing. even for the tea party and getting medicare, there is a gap in empathy and you see it in some of the polls. the sense that now republicans a plurality believe that poverty and unemployment is fault of the person, this it's a f...

This is just classic factionalist politics in which, you know, people are just going to -- everybody's going to get to everyone's right. and you can never get far right enough. and you're a sellout if you deviate from the party line this amount. and there's a psychological to that that is fractal, in which it keeps breaking into smaller and smaller and smaller pieces until it's is a hobsian maelstorm of war against everyone. that is where it's headed. >> the primary threat that supposedly drives all of this, that the republicans are worried about being primaried on their right, i think, is not...

This is, to me, you know, i spent a lot of time in the american left in my life. this is just classic factionalist politics in which, you know, people are just going to -- everybody's going to get to everyone's right. and you can never get far right enough. and you're a sellout if you deviate from the party line this amount. and there's a psychological to that that is fractal, in which it keeps breaking into smaller and smaller and smaller pieces until it's is a hobsian maelstorm of war against everyone. that is where it's headed. >> the primary threat that supposedly drives all of this, that ...

Budget guy who wanted to kill medicare. paul ryan released budget after budget after budget over a period of years that called for the dismantling of medicare. and mitt romney didn't want to be known as the presidential candidate wanting to kill medicare. so the romney camp came up with a solution, i'm rubber, you're glue solution. look, mitt romney claims president obama will end medicare. oh, he'll -- i see. problem solved. in politics, this is a classic. when you're getting attacked for something, just accuse your opponent of being guilty of the same thing. whatever the attack is, if it's s...

That would make a huge difference in our economy right now. >> the senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform bill back in june, but speaker boehner has refused to bring it to the house floor so far. let's bring in democratic congresswoman luis gutierrez of illinois. good to see you again, congressman. >> good being with you, richard. >> crystal ball for us, where and when do you see an opening for immigration reform being taken of? >> i still think before christmas this year. let's let the raw nerves settle down a little bit. a pretty contentious rough couple of weeks there. but the sun...