Deeply ideological some of these players are in this game. >> and of course, it has that republican trademark in it, which is the dramatic cut in taxes and taking the top tax rate down to 25% so that you then, you know, got to do all these spending cuts, cutting medicare. you know, so when you're out there on the campaign trail, why are you cutting medicare like this? well, it's because those rich people can't be paying more than 25% in taxes. >> right. and by the way, just to be clear, all the spending cuts, they feed into the deficit reduction. they don't pay for the big tax cut. what pays f...