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Organization in europe and a wedge against russian aggression. both peter and the other commentator were right about being strong against putin. when trump meets with him, and that's something you haven't asked us about yet, he has to be strong. putin will perceive any sort of comfort level and friendliness as weakness. it also will offend everybody else in europe. and there is no good reason to be friendly with russia right now. keep the relationship going, collaborate on the arctic, which is something, the polar initiative that the wilson center has, that's a place we can work together. but ...

The table, but it is really off the table because of the catastrophic risk of escalation, and when you can't bomb, won't negotiate come you can acquiesce to a build up i called for a serious diplomacy to freeze the program at its current level, not to roll it back fully as we would hope, but a feasible deb did not -- diplomatic objectivee to use freeze it and i think we can enlist china and other powers to bring reasonable pressure on north korea to do that. >> jenna: why would north korea agree to that? >> a freeze agreement would achieve all of the parties near-term point of optimization, so...

A game changer for the united states. but it would be a game changer for china, because of the strategic implications of it. south korea and japan might reassess their non-nuclear status. the united states would bolster the region. this creates political occasion for a reset. how we think about north korea. what i have argued for -- i called for a pivot to serious diplomacy. the focus should be the negotiation of a freeze, locking in north korean capabilities where they are now. for north korea, the regime would remain in power but they would retain a minimum deterrent. china would maintain th...

United states is troubled by china's economic retaliation against south korea, for taking appropriate steps to defend itself. the better path would be for china to address the north korean threat that is actually making such defensive messages necessary. >> the campaign trail, president trump hammered china for their practices. but he is toning down his rhetoric, saying, quote, why would i call china a currency manipulator when they are working with us on the north korean problem? good morning to you, matt. let's back up a little bit if we can and remind us why china has allowed this nuclear p...

So i do say don't take too much comfort in this, but it is a good development that it failed. >> rebecca, he thinks that north korea could some day soon have the ability to hit the u.s. with a nuclear missiles. does that comment surprise you or does that seem to be in line with what we know of what this nation wants? >> that's in line. one of our admirals said it's safe to assume that they're getting close to this capability. one, we have good missile defenses, ground base intercept ors in alaska. a lot of sea based missile defenses in the region and of course the thad which is going into sout...