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Stopping experimentation, you're stopping progress. that's why those young people do not see the nra as their friend, across the board, the kids hiding under desks and the cops who go to save them are both saying the nra's position is too extreme. >> you mentioned your show, which airs tomorrow night, we can hardly keep track of which shooting we're talking about right now. las vegas wasn't so long ago. >> it was october. >> you also have a chance to talk to steph curry, right? one of the great basketball players of all time, but a guy who doesn't care just about basketball. >> he actually wei...

They hate the second amendment. they made individual freedom. >> do you hate individual freedom? >> absolutely not. let's just remember that wayne apparently will say whatever it takes to keep those membership dollars coming in. under the obama administration, he was the one that said the president is coming after you, he's coming to get your guns. before his term is over, he's going to change everything and they'll come in black helicopters and get your weapons. he will do whatever it takes. they will manipulate this and as a result people die. the fact is the majority of nra members favor un...

Traumatized, lost a loved one or been through something horrific. he grasped for words. his aides say he's trying to con say empathy, not that he's being callous. he has fed into this challenge in conveying empathy in the wake of tragedies. you remember the pictures of him tossing paper towels to the storm victims in puerto rico when he went down to visit. he's made insensitive comments on fwittwitter in the aftermath these tragedies. >> in this case, julie, he went in with that note card, basically reminding him to empathize. the last point on that note card said i hear you. one of the surviv...

He flew us in. he had a bus waiting for us. he made time tore us. he took pictures of my daughter that he brought. he said he was going to look at it every day. he's a regular guy. i wouldn't have been there if i didn't think he cared. >> right. so he clearly felt a lot of support, a lot of empathy from the president. my colleague also spoke with one of the survivors of the shooting who was in the hospital last week when she got a phone call from president trump who was very turned off by it. the first thing he said to her, she says, i heard you're a big fan of mine. she said she thought he pr...

About bump stocks or anything else, look, the nra made their position on bump stocks incredibly clear. >> they want them banned? >> that doesn't have anything to do with parkland. >> the nra is not going to call for anything to be banned. they're calling for the atf to do their job. that's what they're supposed to do. that's what attorney general jeff sessions has called for as well. remember, this was immediately right after the las vegas tragedy. this is one of the things the nra called for. >> dana loesch, we appreciate you being here for this conversation. obviously everybody has to be at ...