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argument for maybe some more time for joe biden in the white house. yes, i think probably. thank you, my friend. president biden was in normandy today, commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. and while he was there, he was asked about something totally unrelated. whether he would issue a pardon for his son, hunter, if a federal jury in delaware convicts the younger biden of felony gun possession. here his out president biden responded. as we sit here in normandy, your son, hunter, is on trial. i know that you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution. but let me ask you, will you accept the jury s outcome, the verdict, no matter what it is? yes. have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. pretty clear answer there. but again, this is a yes or no russian. to be honest, shouldn t be that hard to answer. joe biden, as president, with the power to pardon anyone he wants at the federal level will let his son go to prison if he is found guilty ....
The law, only i am above the law, and i will take down our democracy in order to save myself. and i absolutely hear what you re saying. there is an ecosystem of authoritarian and fascist tendencies that surround this criminality, george. that hasn t cut through in the same way that potentially the felony conviction does. i m going to quote sarah and the bulwark today, who has been doing some small focus groups, but nonetheless, indicative of where the voters were going to swing this election are on this. the double haters, people who don t like trump and don t like biden are not only united ideologically but they are united in trusting the judicial system over trump, at least for now. these voters don t speak for the majority, as swing voters, they are marginal but the margin will decide this race. the conviction confirmed what many of them already knew, trump is unfit for office. so i mean, how deeply meaningful do you think this is? i think it is completely, ....
Through. But, i would argue that this hasnt been tried. There has been this mythology that you can separate trump from trumps voters, by just doing the character hits. And thats really all desantis have done, is the character hits. But for many, and katie, you know this better than most, you covered the beginning of this movement. For many, the Character Flaws were a feature, not a bug. So, youve got to make a stronger case. I was listening to a terrific, the folks at the bulwark today, a Focus Group of republicans in iowa, and i was listening to one of their podcasts where they were analyzing it. And, some of the criticism that these trump supporters were giving to desantis was really, well, he didnt really fight back. Well, only in the last couple of weeks have i seen Ron Desantis actually start to make ....