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workforce. entire countries, many of them. the u.s. government, in other words, is astoundingly large world, historically big scale without precedent. truly, gorgan. so what do all those people who work there do every day maybe wondering that? what's a good question? actually , nobody's really sure, including many of the employees themselves. fundamentally, the federal government is a mystery like the universe. it goes on forever. it makes you feel small thinking about it, which is probably the point. the good news is every once in a while our government does something you can actual...

>> aishah: former president trump pushing to release the affidavit but the justice department is urging the court to keep the documents secret, saying releasing it publicly would interfere with an ongoing criminal investigation. >> john: documents show the government is investigating trump for potential obstruction of justice and possible violations of the espionage act. >> aishah: and what's at stake at today's hearing, and peter doocy how the white house is responding. >> john: mark meredith live outside the courthouse in west palm beach florida, mark, what can we expect in the nex...

♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. two former trump white house officials will be key witnesses at thursday's january 6th hearing on trump's 187 minutes of inaction during the violent riot. nbc news has learned, former deputy national security adviser that will testify in person. he resigned after the insurrection, and has already given closed-door testimony to the committee. >> one of my staff brought me a print down off a tweet by the president, and the tweet said something to the effect that mike pence, the vice president, didn't have the courage to do wh...

and it's not just mass shootings, it is every day violence. we'll take a deep dive into the gun epidemic breaking our country. as the 11th hour gets underway on this monday night. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening once again. i'm stephanie ruhle. two -- two former trump white house officials will be key witnesses at thursday's january 6th hearing on trump's 187 minutes of inaction during the violent riot. nbc news has learned, former deputy national security adviser, matthew pottinger, will testify in person. he resigned after the insurrection, and has already given closed-door testimony t...

30 minutes ago, flanked by his attorney from new york, bob costello, and as he exited the vehicle, i was able to ask him a couple of questions, including if he lied to georgia lawmakers when he appeared before them three times in the wake of the 2020 election. listen to his answers. >> mr. giuliani, when you met with georgia lawmakers, did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it is over. it is a grand jury and grand juries as i recall are secret. >> do you believe president trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment on the grand j...