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It is a good leverage point. >> lisa: the president is all about leverage, i think that's primarily what the recent tariffs are about as well. he left the door open for mexico and canada while renegotiating nafta. same thing with china. there is a former bush advisor who said this is the most he's ever seen china willing to negotiate like this. i think what president trump does, he lays down these markers and the intention is to draw closer to where he is and where he wants them to be on the issu issue. >> jessica: i think that is what he wants to be happening. there is a question, what a prec...

Down. >> sean: and spending goes up and-- it's bush's fault, go ahead, say it. >> you keep saying it's bush's fault. i don't say it's bush's fault. i said it was a recession, you added the bush part. >> sean: and here, after obama doubles the debt and accumulates more debt than every president before him, fewer americans working, the american economy in a shambles, he will go down as the worst economic president in american history. that's my prediction. >> i would bet you a steak dinner, but you reneged on the last steak dinner. i want you to come out here and we're going to watch a cubs game...

Down. >> sean: and spending goes up and-- it's bush's fault, go ahead, say it. >> you keep saying it's bush's fault. i don't say it's bush's fault. i said it was a recession, you added the bush part. >> sean: and here, after obama doubles the debt and accumulates more debt than every president before him, fewer americans working, the american economy in a shambles, he will go down as the worst economic president in american history. that's my prediction. >> i would bet you a steak dinner, but you reneged on the last steak dinner. i want you to come out here and we're going to watch a cubs game...

Customer if you drill. we won't drill here. but he wants us to inflate our tires and get tune-ups to get better gas mileage. >> the government needs to get oat of the business of doing business. >> and giving. >> and being in business because that's not what government should be doing. they continue to make bad decisions and bad decision test cost of taxpayers and at the cost to future generations. >> but the cost of corruption here. they were warned it was going to happen. they did it anyway. a -- remember, this was denied by the bush administration as they were leaving. they force it had thr...

>> occupy of -- architect of occupy afghanistan. >> here's the deal. free speech, you have a chance. if you believe in the right of a -- [in discernible yelling] >> you wait until the -- [applause] >> anything you want. [applause] >> you think you are the only person and you have a right to be heard. >> joining me now with his reaction to the madness, the insanity, the courage of the new york city best-seller, encouraging consequence, former bush advisor, fox news contributor -- you were great. i enjoyed that. well, look. let's put this in perspective. there were 700, 800, 900 people in the ro...