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They actually impugn their motives and think that they are evil. in 1994, the number of people who disliked members of the other party was about 20%. now it is almost 50%. the fact is we don't just disagree on policy. we actually think that people who disagree are evil and bad people, and that's why these perceptions are so distorted. >> trace: five seconds to weigh in on this. >> the study has done amazing work. what they have found is 15% on the far right, 15% on the far left. everyone else is in the middle. they call it the exhausted middle. >> sandra: it's a good thing to look at as we app...

That the united states will be able to decrease tensions with iran and that some type of deal will be able to be reached? >> i think a healthy skepticism is warranted when you are dealing with these enemies now for 40 years. it is not the u.s. increasing these tensions. it is iran, clearly trying to increase tension because of the economic straitjacket that we have placed on them. >> sandra: bring it back here to our southern border, as talks over immigration, what to do next, stemming the flow of illegal immigration. mexico has now deployed 15,000 forces to their north to help stem the flow o...

Traditionally, the former presidents stay out of the primary fights. i think he is wise to do so he here. there would be no margin and him weighing in on this. i don't think he would even be particularly helps buy it at this stage. >> sandra: rachel has got something to say. >> i think obama doesn't think that biden can win. also i don't think the left-wing media thinks that he can win. we have seen that a couple of others have come out really hard on biden and his son. they talked about him getting kicked out of the naval academy for cocaine. they are talking very explicitly about the dirty d...

Patrol station in texas. they say all but 30 of those kids have now been removed and transferred to other facilities while an investigation plays out into what happened there. so clearly, as we know, with this immigration story, so many moving parts and so many different facets. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: that is for sure. casey stegall, thank you. >> trace: i want to bring back jonathan swan. you just heard the report there. the migrant children. it sounds to me like in the house, this emergency aid bill has got democrats pretty divid divided. >> it does. i don't know how vast the divisi...

What the other party thinks. >> i think you're seeing this polarization. with people moving -- if you live in a liberal enclave, and you are a conservative, you may think i want to move or there are people more like me. this polarization has happened, the decrease in religious attendance. i think that politics for a lot of people has become like a religion. before, we all use to go to church. it was bigger than all of us that we could all agree on. i think that there has been a decline of sort of community and religious institutions that have made politics become list of finding thing. i think...