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Former assistant special watergate prosecutor and former assistant u.s. prosecutor for the southern district of new york. >> good to be here. >> one thing you caution democrats on is you say you've got to be very, very cautious about relying solely on a transcript. >> that's correct. >> why? >> because transcript arnce always reliable. the best evidence is all the underlying tape, if such a tape he exists. >> as far as we understand it doesn't. >> one of the things that house intelligence committee has to do is really button down whatever versions of this memo exists, whatever notes exist, the...

Welcome you both to the show. >> great to have you here. by the way, barnicle, they have a history here. >> i know that. this is a terrible problem. terrible problem. >> thank you both for coming in. >> so why don't we -- you know, let's just, we'll throw the softball to you first, why did you write the book? >> i was very fortunate, to tell you the truth, i was able to lead 40 sailors and marines, a second lieutenant, 21 years old, and have ncos teach me leadership principles, eventually i commanded a quarter million u.s. and allied troops across the middle east and i learned a lot about lead...

Plant. what was it like to interview my dad? >> it was inspiring to see a black map in this area that achieved that much. he was a lot like how you described him in the book, very stern, very serious. seemed very disappointed when i pulled up. >> that sounds like my dad. >> i was an entertainment report ir. i was dressed down. >> i should have told you to put on hard bottoms and a button down. >> he was candid. that made some of the best parts of the story. we know you. >> everybody out in alabama knows me now. >> he mentioned how good it made me felt to say, i saw your son on television or in...

Haunt them. they've got conflicted, an appearance of conflicts and possibly the reality of conflicts in everything they're doing there and they're in over their heads on foreign policy. >> let me pick up on one thing you said and ask phil rucker. this question of sharing intelligence, not understanding what u.s. intelligence is, this is something donald trump has done. he shared with the russian foreign minister sensitive intelligence. i believe it was israeli intelligence. but there are questions -- are they running around trying to button down -- are they trying to get their hands on a fact ...

They are message to me and the five and half million americans who are demanding donald trump's impeachment is bad politics. it is off message and it will galvanize the republicans. to you and to me and to millions of americans, this is all pretty obvious. >> laura: he should have worn a hoodie instead of no tie. he is trying to be a really cool blue-collar guy, no tie, going to unbutton the shirt. b if you will have it open, just button the next button down -- that's weird. i'm sorry. i have a question, was maxine waters out of town monday?y?i' "no one is talking but impeachment." some of the...