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Discussing the question. Oh, okay. So, what does that mean . You can still we would have to have a vote on the recusal. It would have been preferable to do it before, but i think if the commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, its better to do it now than not at all. Id move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. Thaictionv. She has to be recused, not abstain. ~ im sorry, recused ~. I second. Public comment . Public comment. Yes. [inaudible]. Because of the fact you commission operate under roberts rules of order, the chair cannot make a motion ...

Understood] advocates not trusting him and not trusting the friends of the library. I dont go for those meetings, but i read about it. I do not trust the friends of the library. And i see mr. Herrera here taking a position to defend himself unnecessarily, wasting our time. There can be a solution. Thank you very much. Commissioner hayon . Well, first, number one, the comment about holding the public inferior, i definitely would ~, not to say that is our point of view, and i think tonight was a perfect example of how important Public Comment is in terms of swaying a commission and swaying and h...

The commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, its better to do it now than not at all. Id move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. Thaictionv. She has to be recused, not abstain. ~ im sorry, recused ~. I second. Public comment . Public comment. Yes. [inaudible]. Because of the fact you commission operate under roberts rules of order, the chair cannot make a motion nor can he second a motion. It has to be first or second by one of the other commissioners. Thank you very much. Is that true . Actually, i dont know. But it sound like there are two...

Appearance of a conflict of interest. Kind of should have done that before we he started discussing the question. Oh, okay. So, what does that mean . You can still we would have to have a vote on the recusal. It would have been preferable to do it before, but i think if the commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, its better to do it now than not at all. Id move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. Thaictionv. She has to be recused, not abstain. ~ im sorry, recused ~. I second. Public comment . Public comment. Yes. [inaudible]. Because of the ...

Curious that there is so much attention paid to the library and its commission and its activities. But you know, maybe we need to just explore what is possible not only at the library, but with other commissions as well, including our own for that matter. I have a question for the City Attorney. If we were to find that there was otherwise that there was a violation, it wasnt mr. Herrera himself. Its that is that feasible . Does the City Attorney have a view on whether the commission, the Library Commission or the library is the appropriate party in light of the history of this matter . Well, i...