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discussing the question. oh, okay. so, what does that mean? you can still we would have to have a vote on the recusal. it would have been preferable to do it before, but i think if the commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, it s better to do it now than not at all. i d move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. thaictionv. she has to be recused, not abstain. ~ i m sorry, recused ~. i second. public comment? public comment. yes. [inaudible]. because of the fact you commission operate under robert s rules of order, the chair cannot make a motion nor can he second a motion. it has to be first or second by one of the other commissioners. thank you very much. is that true? actually, i don t know. but it sound like there are two there is someone else to second it. actually, that s not true. okay. well, i don t think that can be right at all because otherwise i don t think that can be right ....

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understood] advocates not trusting him and not trusting the friends of the library. i don t go for those meetings, but i read about it. i do not trust the friends of the library. and i see mr. herrera here taking a position to defend himself unnecessarily, wasting our time. there can be a solution. thank you very much. commissioner hayon? well, first, number one, the comment about holding the public inferior, i definitely would ~, not to say that is our point of view, and i think tonight was a perfect example of how important public comment is in terms of swaying a commission and swaying and helping to make a decision. so, i don t think that is what this discussion is about. i do have a question about the wi-fi aspect. is that something that is feasible since it s so commonplace now. i do think that it may be feasible. we went with the best advice we had from i-t. i m not trying to draw direct parallel, but i subscribed to mlb premium because i love the giants. ....

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appearance of a conflict of interest. kind of should have done that before we he started discussing the question. oh, okay. so, what does that mean? you can still we would have to have a vote on the recusal. it would have been preferable to do it before, but i think if the commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, it s better to do it now than not at all. i d move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. thaictionv. she has to be recused, not abstain. ~ i m sorry, recused ~. i second. public comment? public comment. yes. [inaudible]. because of the fact you commission operate under robert s rules of order, the chair cannot make a motion nor can he second a motion. it has to be first or second by one of the other commissioners. thank you very much. is that true? actually, i don t know. but it sound like there are two there is someone else to second it. actually, that s not true. okay. well, ....

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commissioner hayon s request to recuse herself? all in favor? aye. opposed? hearing none, commissioner hayon is recused. you know, i wonder at this point whether the most productive thing to do might be to ask the city attorney the librarian to go back and explore whether there is other accommodation that can be made, whether that s wireless, whether that s battery operated projector with a screen. it sounds like those item have not been fully explored. if the commission is open to that, maybe we can defer the matter, otherwise i stand by my second with commissioner renne s motion. i guess i believe that that suggestion is not necessarily germane to the motion. and although i might agree with it, i think we have to rule on the motion and then we can make some decision as to whether or not we want to give mr. herrera some guidance a to what we think he ought to be doing. okay. all in favor? aye. opposed? no. it passes 3 to 1. okay, the motion passes 3 ....

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recused from this vote as a former library commissioner. i don t want there to be any appearance of a conflict of interest. kind of should have done that before we he started discussing the question. oh, okay. so, what does that mean? you can still we would have to have a vote on the recusal. it would have been preferable to do it before, but i think if the commission feels like it is appropriate to recuse you, it s better to do it now than not at all. i d move that commissioner hayon be permitted to abstain if she wishes to abstain. thaictionv. she has to be recused, not abstain. ~ i m sorry, recused ~. i second. public comment? public comment. yes. [inaudible]. because of the fact you commission operate under robert s rules of order, the chair cannot make a motion nor can he second a motion. it has to be first or second by one of the other commissioners. thank you very much. is that true? actually, i don t know. but it sound like there are ....

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