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Zerlina-20220122-11:19:00

ensberger, is that enough to prove a crime, and if so, what is it? >> she's a state d.a., and it is enough to show solicitation to committee election fraud. it seems pretty clean. you heard trump in that piece, he'll say, i generally thought i won. if you bear down on the intent requirement of georgia law, it shouldn't matter. but that will be the fight t sort of state of mind of trump or his defense attorney saying, he really believed it, you know. it's kind of crazy to say he believed it, but i think it's beside the point anyway. but that's where the fight comes up. and, yeah, the prosecution itself, play the tape, and you can almost -- and call raffensperger, and you can almost rest after that. >> so real quickly before we go, ivanka trump today was asked to testify voluntarily. what do you make of that?

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Zerlina-20220122-11:17:00

regular grand jury. guys like raffensperger, why would you want a grand jury? he said -- he made it sound like he was being very cooperative. he was saying you'd bet very the legal process to make me do it. a lot of people, it's not necessarily that they're trump-like and doan want to cooperate at all, but they would actually prefer to have the subpoena to say, you know, he's a republican in georgia who's now under some political pressure to be able to say, look, i got a subpoena, i've got to comply with the subpoena. i didn't go in there trying to take the president down, but when i got an order from the grand jury, i complied. so in that sense it's a convenience for him to have, and the fulton county d.a. willis knows that. >> so just a point of legal knew a witness, i think folks at home probably -- i don't want them to get confused. so the house committee on january 6th, they're subpoenaing witnesses to come and testify, they're subpoenaing people for

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