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Girl likes a guy. and i would kind of, you know, pursue that and then go on a date or something and be like, this is absurd. i feel ridiculous. i don't want to be, you know, intimate with this person at all. but i really like him in a special way. it was like i was having bromances before i realized i was a guy. >> you had sex once with a man. >> once, yes. >> what was the experience like? >> just kind of bland really. it wasn't a horrific traumatic experience. it was like okay. >> why did you do that? to prove to yourself that you had at least tried it? >> it was kind of immature but i was on...

Get married as two women because i didn't feel like i was a woman. >> it seems to me you have a lot of excuses to avoid taking jennifer down the aisle and she made it absolutely crystal clear she'd like you to. >> i know. >> i agree. >> he's now behaving like a typical man. >> he is. >> which is comforting. >> no, no. it's something we are going to be doing. >> is there a window we are talking about? >> there is no ultimatum. i'm here. we're here. we have been through a lot. >> i would say within a year definitely. >> not to make excuses but we went through a lot. i transitioned, she went to g...

>> none of that. >> that's a remarkable sign of our times. >> it is. >> does it make you feel good? >> it makes me feel really great. i went to the yankee store to buy a cap and the guy recognized me and couldn't have been cooler. hey, chaz. >> that must make you feel great. >> it does, it does. >> hey, chaz. that's cool. let's take a break and come to somebody else who is pretty cool, which is your girlfriend who stood by you, who is as brave as you. >> she is. naomi pryce: i am. i'm in the name your own price division. i find empty hotel rooms and help people save - >> - up to 60% off. i am ...

>> you know, this is family. and family is so important. and chaz has been such a hugely important part of my life but the same token, kind of rib chaz because i'm not really popular in chaz's community either. we kind of have some fun going back and forth on that. sometimes we agree to disagree on things. but at the end of the day chaz campaigned for me when i ran as a republican running for congress. so we put our love for one another ahead of politics. >> yeah. actually, it's been an amazing experience because, i mean, mary and i have always gotten along. we love each other deeply. and it g...

To san francisco. that's where he did it. i had no idea how i would react. but to my surprise i was thrilled. like i got it. when i saw his chest the way it looks now i thought, oh, right, this makes sense. i was surprised. i actually thought i might miss the other, but it worked. >> physically there wasn't a problem. what about psychologically? >> emotionally, we went through a lot of work. you go from being in a female dynamic, even though i believe chaz was always male. he had estrogen. so you have two estrogens in the house and then it goes to estrogen/testosterone. and that sentence adjus...