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Other all the time. and that's why when you have seen people throughout try to silo themselves off, and, yes, i know my voice sounds great, it's been difficult, i think, for people to process when we watched how this campaign functioned. >> ed, it is now your chance to speak for yourself here. >> yeah. >> are we to believe -- you know, do you believe the explanation that jared kushner got this e-mail, forwarded it to hope hicks yet had no recollection of it? >> yeah, look, i mean, if you've never run a big campaign, i've only run my own campaign and a few others, you don't know the intensity, ...

Campaign and a few others, you don't even the intensity and the scrutiny. it's completely normal for people who aren't political, they were not politicians or campaign types, to be doing things in ways that look now, especially when you have a special counsel, how could you say you forgot? it actually is completely understandable and, frankly, for the american people, you look up and you say you're asking about the russians, i mean, sessions' joke makes people laugh. >> it makes people at the federal society laugh. >> trust me. >> it was a real knee slapper, wasn't it? >> the biggest problem i...

Campaign types and others were apparently caught up in routine, lawful, and authorized u.s. surveillance. let's not focus on all the smoke that is in this routine surveillance. let's instead focus on who called 911 to report this fire. it's absolutely astounding that they want us not to focus on these two bombshell reports, but instead to look at routine matters that any intelligence analyst or policymaker carries out on a nearly daily basis. >> david corn, sean spicer saying that they were not aware of any meetings that erik prince had and that erik prince had no >> well, you know, i'm still ...

On the fact that lots of our associates, lots of trump campaign types and others were apparently caught up in routine, lawful, and authorized u.s. surveillance. let's not focus on all the smoke that is in this routine surveillance. let's instead focus on who called 911 to report this fire. it's absolutely astounding that they want us not to focus on these two bombshell reports, but instead to look at routine matters that any intelligence analyst or policymaker carries out on a nearly daily basis. >> david corn, sean spicer saying that they were not aware of any meetings that erik prince had an...