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support. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. monday america celebrates the third ever federal holiday of juneteenth, commemorating the emancipation of enslaved african americans. as we do, the consensus among legal scholars is the supreme court will soon be ending affirmative action, at least in the context of college admissions. does that mean it achieved its purpose or we're abandoning the underlying premise? a pair of cases have been argued. we'll soon know the results. one involves harvard, the other the university of north carolina. the conventional wisdom is that race-consc...

Than even chance of surprising history by winning. no labels has made things complicated by saying it would end its campaign if the gop nominee is desantis or anyone else not named trump because their research shows that they then wouldn't be able to attract enough dissatisfied republicans to make the candidate viable, nor would no labels run if a candidate polls show biden is way out ahead of trump next spring. how could anybody know that given the unreliability of our polling. joining me is matt bennett, co-founder of third way, served as deputy assistant to president clinton for intergovern...

I remember how barack obama was going to win every other state and hillary clinton won new hampshire in 2008 and it was an extended win. it does strike me as we focus on the national polling for the dynamics of the race, the significance of iowa being that close i think hasn't quite set in with people about where the stand -- where the race actually stands. >> right. the other thing is iowa is a state where people have organizations on the ground. >> right. >> they're out meeting voters. they're on the air. that's not the same as what's happening nationally. you have more candidates making mor...

I remember howard dean was going win iowa and john kerry won it and ran the table. i remember how barack obama was going to win every other state and hillary clinton won new hampshire in 2008 and it was an extended win. it does strike me as we focus on the national polling for the dynamics of the race, the significance of iowa being that close i think hasn't quite set in with people about where the stand -- where the race actually stands. >> right. the other thing is iowa is a state where people have organizations on the ground. >> right. >> they're out meeting voters. they're on the air. that...

Back for it. now trump may not give them much back for it either, but he is appealing to their anger and their unhappiness. eni think the other problem republicans have in taking trump down is that party is now very much an anti-immigrant party. 63% of republicans think immigrants are a burden on the country as opposed to strengthening it. that's true of only 32% of democrats, 36% of independents. so his anti-immigration argument has a real base inside the .republican party and that's one of the reasons why he's been holding up. >> the republican frontd runner is polling down below where the d...