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Have a lorry. the other side can't be told. there's no counter to what the government is doing. so they will have a big hurdle i think to get over to even allow the information that's in front of a grand jury to get to the american people by way of mr. rosenstein because that is a miscarriage of justice. what else? obstruction of justice. i'm going through what they've been arguing. the president cannot obstruct justice for firing a subordinate, period. now what about this new thing they've come up, conspiracy to defraud an election? i would like to know, this conspiracy, exactly who to the pr...

Strongly signaling at least they feel, if they don't have insider information, that a pardon is likely. on the legal risk here, though, that his legal advisers would raise, is that if you pardon someone during an ongoing investigation, that could look like obstruction of justice or trying to interfere with an ongoing investigation. but at the same time, the president's lawyers are making a case that the president cannot obstruct justice, that he has the presidential power under article ii to pardon whoever he wants at whichever time he pleases, and they also make the case that he could pardon ...

That trump is not a target, that he's not going down the road, that even if he is still wrapping up his probe that he feels he had a duty to tell the country the president is no longer a target so people can start to move on. >> laura: andy, they said this is where they are looking over tweets, it is like the dread. it's ridiculous. i'm sorry. now we are in tweets? interviews? it's public staff. how are you obstructing an investigation with public comments? i am not following that. i guess it's possible but i don't follow it. >> the whole thing is preposterous because with due respect to preet...

I wish if mueller has decided that trump is not a target, that he's not going down the road, that even if he is still wrapping up his probe that he feels he had a duty to tell the country the president is no longer a target so people can start to move on. >> laura: andy, they said this is where they are looking over tweets, it is like the dread to. it's ridiculous. i'm sorry. now we are in tweets? interviews? it's public staff. how are you obstructing an investigation with public comments? i am not following that. i guess it's possible but i don't follow it. >> the whole thing is preposterous ...

Firing james comey as fbi director that could be determined to be an act of obstruction of justice, i gather you agree with the president's lawyers, why? >> i agree with the president's lawyers. made the same case you last december. it's simple. it's not that the president cannot obstruct justice, while the president is commercing core constitutional powers of his office, like firing people, hiring people, pardoning people, telling people what to do, he cannot possibly be engaged in obstruction because to allow congress to pass statutes that hold him accountable criminally here, in fact, would...