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Said, we're going to march to the capitol, and sent them there anyway. he knew you were at the capitol, that lawmakers were at the capitol. what do you make of that? >> well, i -- well, the president's words were reckless. and his actions were reckless. the president's words that day at the rally endangered me and my family and everyone at the capitol building. >> when did you learn that the rioters had breached the capitol? >> when elizabeth macdonough, the parliamentarian of the senate, turned around in her chair and said, "rioters have breached the first floor of the cap tom." and then my s...

Pat, he thinks mike deserves it. he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong. >> and recounted pat cipollone's reaction. >> people are going to die. the blood's going to be on your f-ing hands. >> the day after the violence, white house counsel advised him to give a speech condemning the rioters. >> this is your legacy. there's already talks about invoking the 25th amendment. you need this as cover. >> trump wanted to float the idea of pardons for those who broke into the cap tom. according to hutchinson, many others including meadows and giuliani sought pardons from trump.n committed to tru...